AlertPay Targets Affiliate Marketers and Grows Business Where PayPal Doesn’t Go

November 15, 2010 11:56 am 26 comments

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AlertPayFerhan Patel and his brother Firoz started AlertPay in 2004. The brothers found a niche and pain point with affiliate marketers and MLM businesses, many of which ran the risk of having their accounts frozen by PayPal for being in violation of PayPal’s user agreement. Whether those businesses were in violation or not, AlertPay became a friendlier, more easily accessible option. The company is now adding 5,000 new members daily and scaling aggressively. It’s been 6 years of toiling away, growing their business and meeting specific market demands.

The company is nowhere near the size of PayPal, nor is it clear whether or not they’ve got that level of scale in their sights, but it’s an impressive feat all the same to go into a space as complicated and challenging as online payments. They’re now working on adding developer tools to make AlertPay more attractive for e-commerce stores to include as a payment option. The goal overall is to expand the brand and make sure more and more people know that AlertPay is a legitimate payment processor.

NextMontreal: When and why did you start AlertPay?

Ferhan: The idea of AlertPay started in 2004, and we officially launched and went live in June 2005. Before 2004, we were in the business of developing
affiliate tracking software (referral tracking software) for 2 years and during this time, many of our clients kept running into problems with PayPal shutting down or freezing their accounts due to their business involving affiliates. It wasn’t until our own company’s PayPal account was frozen that we felt the pain of our own clients. We realized a serious need in the market for another payment platform, and AlertPay was founded.

NextMontreal: Why was PayPal shutting down so many accounts, including your own?

Ferhan: It had to do with their interpretation of Multi-Level Marketing in their user agreement. Any business that was structured in an affiliate model, or similar model, ran the risk of being in violation. When your account gets frozen and all your funds held for 6 months, it can destroy your business as it did for many of our customers. This was a consistent complaint against PayPal from numerous merchants.

NextMontreal: What’s your background, and the background of your co-founder?

Ferhan: Business has been in our blood since we were young. My family operated a grocery store when we were growing up and, at the same time, a home-based
needle trade business. My parents always ran their own business and worked countless hours to provide for us and give us a better future.

I studied Commerce at Champlain College, and went on to receive a Bachelor of Computer Science from Concordia University. I also have a certificate in Project Management from McGill University.

Firoz, (CEO) inherited his entrepreneurial spirit from our family roots and has been doing business since high school, starting off by selling comic books. From there he went on to complete a degree in Business Administration from Champlain College. His experience includes working as a technology officer for a business expense tracking software company, to sales processing.

After graduating from university, I joined Firoz in his processing business to develop our own affiliate software solution that would help e-commerce merchants track referrals and affiliate commissions.

NextMontreal: How was AlertPay originally financed? Have you ever raised external financing?

Ferhan: Believe it or not, during the R&D phase of developing the application for AlertPay.com between 2004 and 2005, we (founders) actually had to fire
ourselves to maintain enough funds to pay for our developers. During this time, to make ends meat, I took on another job at an IT consulting company working there during the days, and putting in my nights and weekends to work on AlertPay. We’ve always been self-financed and put everything we had to get it off the ground.

NextMontreal: How is it different from PayPal? Seems like a big gamble to go after a giant like that.

Ferhan: We’re different from PayPal in quite a few ways and we’re also quite similar. We’re different in terms of our business model, the types of
businesses we support, more funding options, more withdrawal options, more currencies, and we support more countries than PayPal to receive payments.

When we first started AlertPay, we never planned to compete against PayPal. We planned to just service a market need that PayPal was neglecting or
servicing poorly.

NextMontreal: Why did PayPal ignore the affiliate market, which is where you seem to have found a niche? And are they still ignoring that market?

Ferhan: I don’t think they ignored the affiliate market, but they took a very strict approach with it due to the bad seeds in the industry. A lot of people still distrust PayPal with their funds if their business has an affiliate program or follows a MLM structure. We were fortunate enough to get involved at the time we did and fill that need, and continue to fill that need today. I doubt it hurts their bottom line in any way, and we’re happy to take on this business.

NextMontreal: I don’t see AlertPay as an option on many e-commerce stores, so is it being used a lot in other ways, such as two people sending each other money?
What are the most common use cases?

Ferhan: Our usage on e-commerce stores has been picking up quite well in the last few months. As we release more developer tools for our payment platform, we
predict a lot more adoption on that front.

AlertPay is used in quite a few niche market places around the world, and is growing very fast on the remittance/payout side of business. We have numerous merchants choosing AlertPay to facilitate their payout needs worldwide. AlertPay’s platform offers our members numerous withdrawal options, which makes it an ideal choice for our merchants.

NextMontreal: Geographically, where is AlertPay most popular?

Ferhan: AlertPay is most popular in the United States and United Kingdom; however our reach is in over 190 countries and growing aggressively worldwide at a rate of 5000 members daily.

NextMontreal: Having been in business for 6 years, what’s the #1 lesson learned you can share with other startups?

Ferhan: Read, research, and ask questions. There are no easy answers, and unfortunately, trial and error is still the best teacher. You will end up wearing multiple hats during the course of growing the business; I personally learnt to handle HR, payroll, accounting, product management, business analysis, marketing, and system administration. Pretty much if a role needed to be filled and we didn’t have the required staff to do it, I would do it myself. I thrive at challenges, and just because I don’t know
something or don’t have the training, it never meant I couldn’t figure it out. The way I see it is that if someone out there knows the skills, and they didn’t need to do years of school for it, I can train myself.

NextMontreal: Your site says you’re bringing on 4,500 users / day. How are you driving most of that user acquisition?

Ferhan: Actually we need to update that. We are now averaging 5000+ signups a day. We’re very fortunate that most of our user acquisition is through referrals
and viral growth. When a merchant accepts AlertPay as a payment method for their business, they drive new members to our site to become a member.

NextMontreal: At what point after starting did you say, “We’ve got something here, let’s scale this thing”?

Ferhan: Good question. There is no magic moment, but it wasn’t until this year that we actually started ramping up more aggressively and feeling a lot more confident about what we have.

NextMontreal: What remains your biggest challenge?

Ferhan: We have a few big challenges. One is establishing strategic banking and payment partners around the world to support our payment platform. Another
is to acquire excellent talent to support our growth.

NextMontreal: Do you still consider yourself a startup?

Ferhan: I actually do still consider us a startup. The growth and success of our business has not yet hit me to consider otherwise. Maybe next year, as we
put more processes in place, we will reconsider calling ourselves a startup.

NextMontreal: What’s the #1 thing you’d like people to know about AlertPay?

Ferhan: AlertPay is an incredible payment platform that has numerous uses for our buyers and sellers worldwide. Even if a merchant already uses another payment
provider, they’ll be amazed at the additional business that can be acquired by adding AlertPay as an additional payment method.


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  • Wade

    Congratulations to you guys for championing (against the grain) what I think is probably the most leveraged (powerful) way to grow an online business (multi-tier affiliate marketing). I just recently created an AlertPay account for my business (engagehotspots.com) and am quite amazed at how simple you have made integration. Thanks.

  • Kdpanamdan

    I battered my head against a brick wall for around 5 months whilst trying to set up an AlertPay a/c.
    The intelligence of some of the support staff was to say the least questionable. I am STILL waiting for an explanation and apology from a Senior Manager many months later!

  • Ron Dwyer

    Ever since I got my account verified it has had a temporary hold on it. I have sent 5 emails to Alertpay tickets. And not one reply from them, all I get is an automated reply saying to read these related articles. They can’t even do me the curtesy of replying or even explaining why the hold was placed in the first place. I have already missed out on something I wanted to buy all too late it’s expired while I have been waiting for a reply. Has anyone had this trouble hith Alertpay. I can’t find an email adress for Alertpay admin or management.Ron.Dwyer
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  • Patrick Evans

    Wow! That’s awesome to see a Montreal company take on America Corporate Giants like Paypal. I didn’t even know Alertpay was in Canada let alone in Montreal :) Good job!

  • G U 2

    i love alertpay

  • Vision

    I have been a member of AlertPay for at least 4 years. If one follows the instructions provided for registration, it will be smooth going. With a little patience, everything is set up correctly. I have also requested AlertPay´s assistance in resolving delicate issues with several (unfortunately) not so honest merchants and they have come through with flying colors. If AlertPay clients provide all of the required information to facilitate AlertPay´s reviews, they will be satisfied at the response, whether positive or negative. John Stratmann

  • albert

    ALERTPAY takes a long time to reply to questions and they have my account at 1500 below because of a payment with a member and we provided the services and now alertpay wants us to pay it back so now i am still fighting to get this resolved.
    they are not as good a processor as i would have hoped as they are doing the same stunts as paypal as i cant pay anyone and my business is going under because of it
    albert

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  • albert

    XTE-881536
    still no answer for alertpay the ruened my business they are a scam like all the res of them including paypal
    alertpay is doing the same shit paypal does
    albert

  • albert

    XTE-881536
    they still refused to answer me they ruened my buisness they are a bad as paypal
    thats assholes
    albert

  • albert

    they are answering me now but they shoulkd know whos accounts are whos they are saying i got double accounts when i dont hopefully this will be resolved

  • Francoie

    alert pay are no different then paypal they will hold your funds except payments charge you for thre transactions and never tell you why they are holding on to your money do not trust this company they have only one interest and that is not you they ay they dont do what paypal do hold on to your funds well thats a lie they do hold on to your fund if you run a busenes i would not take a chance with these people dont invest your money in a busene and then put your trust into a company that can close you down without evan saying why

  • Steven Shirey

    Hey Ron,

    I didn’t have your particular problem, but when I contacted them by phone, they took care of my problem right then and there.

  • Lanni81

    if you are suspicious paypal will put a hold on your money for 6 months, alertpay takes them for all what you prefer ?

  • albert

    they never respond to your questions and they got my account under 1500 on hold and havent answered me yet 2 months later what is up with this processor
    they all seem to be no good but solidtrustpay I wish they will fix my account ill post when they do
    so far 2 months no answers

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  • candace

    i also have funds still frozen,my own money mistaken for gifting

  • Drnoahzark…candace

    i still have frozen funds…that was my own money not gifting funds

  • albert

    Seem like a complicated case and they are working on it so i trust they will fix the issue ill stick with them i like alertpay

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/jasondandridgepersonal#about Jason Dandridge

    Thank You AlertPay for being a top quality payment processor! I have been sending and receiving money since the winter of 2008. I have never had one issue or hang up!

    One request, I hope AlertPay releases a debit card like Paypal currently has! It will be nice to have our AlertPay balance accessible with a debit card instantly once we have a positive balance. When you do that Alertpay will be the best payment processor on the planet!

    Thanks Again,

    Jason Dandridge

  • Psynhuman

    I dunno it just took them 1-2 hours to answer me last time, they also needed personal detail proofs for handling my problem but I didn’t have to upload/fax and wait days/weeks or anything I just attached them to my email and everything was ok in a half hour :)

  • http://WSonTV.com Brian

    I too have funds that are frozen by AlertPay……they say they only freeze funds for 7 days so today they should release it……they said they placed the hold because my business… http://www.WSonTV.com ……is a MLM account……I think any MLM account is automatic freeze..

  • Bicsak Laszlo

    Hello Mr. Bicsak,

    Thank you for contacting AlertPay. My name is Cody and I am happy to assist you.

    You can earn $5.00 USD for every person you refer. After you have referred 10 people, you can earn $10.00 USD for each person. You will receive your reward if your referrals fulfill the following qualifications:

    • They sign up for a Personal Pro or Business account using your referral link.
    • They transact at least $250.00 USD.

    You will be paid in your AlertPay account within 10 days. Please note that self-referrals or referrals from the same IP address will not be paid out.

    Thank you for choosing AlertPay. If you have any additional questions, feel free to check out our helpful Frequently Asked Questions at https://helpdesk.alertpay.com

    Kind regards,
    Cody
    Customer Support Advisor
    AlertPay Customer Support

    Ticket Details
    ===================
    Ticket ID: VYT-820993
    Department: General Support
    Status: Closed

    RE: I know very well the Terms of Service in AlertPay!
    This is precisely why I wrote to you the e-mail about my referrals because you failed to pay me the comissions you said you will pay.
    If you want to answer me please get to the point and don’t send me the list of conditions that l have to meet in order to be paid. If you’re not willing to pay just say so but don’t dupe me by sending those terms. Do I need to ask all my referrals to send you the history of their payments before u will honour your statement?
    Or should l tell anyone, including your big clients that I know are using AlertPay that you are not serious and they should change the Payment processor they are working with.

  • Cdinh

    I battered my head against a brick wall for around 5 months whilst trying to set up an AlertPay a/c. 
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